Sorry Elkamp, I just read too many posts all at once.I'll try not to take it personaly I know that these posts are here for everyone to learn from and not nessisarily only directed to the person who asked the question. I just bought a box of 150 grain power point winchesters. That was the bullet I was shooting before swiching to remington, never had any problems with them. Beaverjack, I think you are right about shooting in the shoulder, every funny looking elk with under developed antlers I've shot there dropped in thier tracks cleanly. I'll tell you all how these bullets perform as soon as I get another deer.

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