Hey Kodiak,
Remember that warning I gave you about the soon to be arriving sermon about shot placement? Don't loose sight of your response to to me which I was thought was right on! Don't take it personally these threads might start with your question, but take on a life of their own as different players that have went nose to nose under different posts now put in their viewpoints and their own agendas - which by the way is okay with me.

It's not directed to you personally, it's just kind of easy to "get in the way."
EKM

Good judgement comes from bad experience! Half of elk hunting is knowing what NOT to do!