Cartman... You found the website for Crossbows for dummies. The bow are talking about will thump a deer good at 35 Yards if the shooter does his part and I have never even shot a Horton.All the really smart guys onthis forumseem to recommend Excaliburs, butBased on what these bow monkeys say any decent bow will do the job. Then they quickly fade into a discussion about which one will do it better. Not sure what the decision is. Ido expect you will find alot of good info here. >>>>>>>>>>Whack!