I could easily look you in the eye and ask if you have any solid information that supportsyour supposition thatPA didn't have 1.2, 1.4 or 1.6 million deer at the beginning of the herd reduction process, or whatever other figure you might accept as being correct. Big surprise...no one really knew exactly how many deer we had, don't know how many we have now either. Think any other state wildlife agencies know how many deer they have either, or do they also rely on their best estimates?

Can't speak for Hogan or Doug, can speak for myself: No doubt in my mind that any of those figures were not onlypossible, but highly probable. Not that big of deal which, if any, figure was correct....if one accepts that we once had far too many deer in many places.

Number is irrelevant,when observations show that too many deer are harmful to their habitats. Only solution to too many deer, is to have fewer deer, which is precisely what has happened and in many cases, was long overdue to happen. Fool with that.