Larry,on average,I saw far more deer while hunting public land in 2G than I did hunting in Ohio.I saw 8 doe and fawns by8:00amon the first day of archery season last year in Moshannon state forest.I also had 15 opportunities to kill deer that were well within range throughout the end of the season.I'd say my odds in 2G were far better than in Ohio.My buddy traveled out to Ohio 8 times and saw very few deer but did manage to kill a 20 inch 8 point during the late season.He hunted all day on the first day of their shotgun season and never saw a single deer.