I'm one of those that bought one for the wife first. The 2 deer she shot with it dropped in their tracks with lung hits - looked like someone dropped a safe on them! Hers was a 700 Mtn Rifle and those 140 grain Nosler BTs work perfectly at 7-08 velocity on deer. I just bought a Kimber 84M Select Grade in 7-08 and it's one of the finest rifles I have ever owned - guess I learned my lesson!