The sad thing IMHO, is that this cartridge has been around for 120 years....yes, the 7mm Mauser is the ballistic twin albiet a bit faster than this fine cartridge....granted, you have to move the bolt another 1/4 inch or so. To me it's kind of sad to see how the gun manufactures and so called experts keep hyping the "new stuff" when in fact many fine calibershave been around for many years. I just built a 7mm-08 on a Mauser action....stay tuned! Regards, Rick.