Joe I'm with you on the X-ring comment - it was intended more 'virtual' than physical (as it relates to a 3d target) The X ring (to me on a deer that is) is where I think the perfect passthru double lung & heart if I can get it shot is - not at all the actual X ring on a 3d target.

If you look at my SD buck pictures from my other post the blood loss looks a lot further back than it does in this post with the hide off - I.E. he wasn't quartering at a steep angle AT ALL.

Also of note (that I forgot to mention) was that when I shot that buck the arrow hit the deer with a huge CRACK - high pitched like slapping hands together - not the 'thwuummpp' like when I stuck the passthru at 43 yards - I thin it whacked a rib immediately & caused the commotion.

Take it for what it's worth guys - I was a big advocate until this & I still say they fly more accurately than anything else I've seen - I just won't hunt with them.



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