OK - so I think I can post a picture properly so here goes my discussion on the slicktrick broadheads...

First let me say this - these things fly AWESOME - I'm shooting 3 inch groups at 50 yards - they fly like darts - which is why I fell in love with them - they do seem noisey in flight - I can hear a 'ffffffft' while in flight which I don't hear with Muzzy's or fieldpoints.

Just to reiterate - these things fly like darts - and I'm not hear to rip on anyone but I want your opinions & to let you know of a possible problem...

Here goes - I think that the short TIP and EXTREME angles of the blades cause deflections on quartering angles that really aren't that steep.

Here's my proof - I took a doe at about 9 yards quartering away - she dropped at 40 yards & I didn't think much of it. As she was haning on the snorting pole I noticed I couldn't see the enterance hole. I started poking around & found that the broadhead cut the hide, then slid forward under the hide over the guts/ribs for about 4 inches and past 3 ribs before the tip 'caught' and the arrow went through the deer, exiting the opposite front shoulder. A clean pass-thru but I found it intersting that the arrow appeared to 'slide' up the body a ways before 'entering'. I brushed it off.

The next morning I took a shot at a quartering young buck - and about fell over when I saw the fletch hanging out of his chest when he turned broadside & I could glass him (he was some 65 yards away so I coldn't shoot again). After tracking for hours & 3/4 of a mile with real good blood we lost him - couldn't track through the alfalfa field he entered - I was not only bummed but in awe - the arrow was 'hanging out of him' right in the X - I just couldn't figure out what went wrong.

Overnight I started developing a theory - I went out & looked at that doe hide again - I theorized that the arrow glanced off the hide & penetrated the hide but not the ribs, then slid up under the front shoulder & stopped inside of him w/o getting through the vitals. The next day I heard the T'wolves (yes timberwolves) cut lose & I figured they found him. When the ravens got to the scraps I headed out & found him about 1/4 mile from where I lost him - and there was the end of my arrow & broadhead too, I inspected what was left of him & sure enough my theory was correct. I drug out the carcass & started photo'ing it.

Here's the carcass with the hide 'down' you can see the hole to the far left, then the hide shaved (moving right) then a hole in the hide where it actually penetrated, then further right where it 'stopped' and wore a hole thru above & in front of the shoulder


The first (far left) hole in the hide is where the head hit FIRST, then it shaved & slid, hit again & penetrated the hide (not ribs) then slid.. Why? The blade hit the ribs & slid down & the tip didn't penetrate.

Next - the hide was detatched from the ribs - so by lifting the hide up I could see exactly what the arrow did - and one of the blades slid down the ribs & you could see it cutting each rib & bouncing down as it did - here's where the arrow laid (hide removed)



ok - so pull the arrow away & reveal the 'line' the arrow took - look closeley & you'll see the 'line' the blade left as it slid down the ribcage



OK - so that's that for the MN buck story.. - the next day I took a small buck broadside at 43 yards with a complete passthru RIGHT THRU the heart - (as I said - they fly like darts but I think they have deflection issues)

SO - now I'm hunting SD again...

I take a buck (see my other post) at about 10 yards quartering away - when he takes off he's favoring his right leg (enterance side) and I KNOW it was an X when I shot - and again - I about fall out of the stand when the arrow doesn't 'passthru'. I pray for quite a while & this time I recover the deer - but again - the enterance hole is a big question.

Well I get the hide off it - the deer was quartering away & when I shot the arrow fletch seemed to flip UP and dangle UP and BACK when I expected a pass thru. back to the story - I get the hide off & here's what it looks like



looks good right - X ring (close to it) but what's with the blood below & behind it I'm wondering... well I take the shoulder off (next pic) and the DARN head AGAIN didn't penetrate the ribs - but slid along the ribs under the shoulder



I must have hit an artery because there was MASSIVE blood loss after about 30 yards and he only went 50 total. You can see the massive blood clotting under the shoulder - I'm just glad I recovered this one!

OK - so what's the point? I think you guys should know to beware of quartering shots with this head. I shoot a Bowtech Patriot at 70# and shoot at 444 grain arrow at about 250fps so I have good KE - and as I stated - 3 inch groups at 50 yards - they fly like darts and do great broadside - but watch the quartering shots....

I ordered innerlock 4blade 105gr's when I got the hide off this deer.

(long & full of pictures - sorry...)

be careful on quartering shots & good luck!



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