well right now I am liking and shooting good with the Hornady 240grn xtps for my deer loads I pay up here in Yorkton, Sask Canada $11 for 20 of them they come with the green sabots. Some people say that the bullets are good but you can get better sabots, but I haven't had any problems so I don't see the point to spending extra money for sabots when the bullets come with perfectly good sabots. Also the Hornady 250grn sst/ml's are a nice bullet for 20 of them for $12 they are a ballistic tipped bullet, I had problems with the sabots that came with those bullets they were black(don't know the name) but they were thicker and were near impossible to get down my bullet. Anyways thats cheap bullets up here I don't know about the USA.