Like you say its still the twenty yard game no matter how ya look at. But that is the only adavantage the CB has over the long bow is the draw on the deer. I sometimes think that this is still the bow users fault though because they are up in the tree pulling back more then they should be. I watch some of my friends shoot and they are all but pushing out a turd when pulling back their bow,back arched, a little grunting, and the bow pointed to the sky. If they would just turn it down a little they could make a much smoother draw less more attention. Also if they would turn it down to say 60 or 55 pounds they should be able to draw sooner before the deer gets to them, cause like 20% of 55 pounds is only 11 pounds I think so I dont know why they are trying to draw to late. But I will admit I like my CB and never have the draw problem, but have spooked a few deer as I was being busted getting my CB into position. If its a guilt thing why does it stop with draw? Wouldn't the let off, the rest, and nice peep sight and pins bother ya too? The only time I ever feel like I have the advantage is when I sit down with my dads old work buddy who is now 68 and still shoots a recurve with a rug rest! Now thats skill!!! Any way good to see ya back, I do remember seeing ya in here before. Hunting season is around the corner so good luck!