You don't spend alot of time in these parts do you Crazy horse?Some of the units have alot of private land but anyone willing to work for an elk,can find them on public land in Pa.Most of the elk in pa are shot very close to roads,as evidenced by the fact that the vast majority of elk are brought in to the check station whole.A good wilderness style hunt is a huge opportunity for those hunters that draw a tag and it doesn't have to cost alot of money.People just have to be willing to work for it.