Hillbilly andBowtech I thank you for your experienced replies. Hillbilly, I don't know why it is, but the Bass Pro shop near me has the 3 layered ones you showed for sale at somewhere in the $200s. The 5 layered were $400 plus. Sounds like that the place to get them. Their catalog only shows the $400 Simms. I have acouple places in NY where these chest wader will even come in handy for deer hunting. Thanks a lot.