thanx butch...ill give that a try next weekend when i am home(heading back to college right NOW! lol). sounds like a pretty good way of "fine tuning" your bow...i was talking to a shop owner the other day. he said he super tunes his and shoot from 60 and 70yds away and makes adjustments. you get shootin good that far away 20-30yd shots youll be splitting hairs! thanx for the info...