Good thread. Although the author really likes Predator Fall Gray.....which I happen to like and use too, I think the main point is that although camos such as MO, RT, and others do work in certain circumstances, the finer detail of small limbs and trees become one dark object. In the open and in brush distinguishing the human is much easier with these fashionable camos than when using open pattern camos such as Predator and ASAT. In fact I have been wanting to try the Outfitter camo by Cabelas...just haven't bought any yet.