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11-15-2002 | 02:20 PM

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JeffB

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RE: Not fast, OR quiet enough !! Little Test I did.

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I played the speed game back in the 80's, back when we had no restrictions on poundage or arrow weights for 3D<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

PW, you are starting to sound like an old Grandpa, LOL..."Back when I was a kid, we didn't have no fancy shmancy carbon arrows...we had sticks..yeah sticks I found in the yard..by myself! I picked up sticks all damn day and night..in th SNOW! And we didn't have a lathe..we whittled 'em down ourselves...almost cut my finger off one time...Did I ever tell ya 'bout that? etc. etc.. <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Even Bowtech, the current masters of the speed game,(and really the only ones left who care about it-- why I don't know---marketing I guess) are now increasing brace heights and ATA lengths on their speediest bows for more forgiveness. Gotta walk before you can run.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

With all due respect, your comment re: Bowtech is BS.Bowtech has had fairly high to quite high brace models since their inception. The Mighty Mite option one and two at 7.25 and 8.25" respectively,the Stalker at 7.75" , the Extreme Solo & G3 option two at 7", etc. just for the Y2K model year (their first). Bowtech has pretty much always given a choice between a higher and lower brace height. So now they raise brace heights and speeds and that's BAD? Seems to me like that's quite an improvement. Something no-one else is doing. The other manufacturers fastest models still are using 6" brace heights. When will people be happy? And if the increased speed DOES bug someone, there are things out there on the market called heavier arrows.

I disagree re: who is marketing speed. Look at just about everyone out there who advertises. Speeds are plastered all over the advertising. PSE was promoting their new 6" brace speedbow all of last year. Hoyt's sub 6.75" CyberTec, Martins Cougar XRG at 6 & 5/8", etc... Mathews has higher brace bows yes, but the ads post high speeds. Fact is,like it or not, speed sells (and it's beneficial too if used properly!). And everyone who is in a Marketing department, regardless of company,realizes that. If no-one else besides Bowtech cared about speed,why do they advertise speed ratings? Why would all of these manufacturers make bows that are faster? why not make all bows shoot the same speed? You seem to alway single out Bowtech for this, and I'm not sure what you're beef is with them (and you mention them often enough by name to make your feelings clear..And yep, I'm defending Bowtech here because I happen to like them, as well as stating general opinion regardless of manufacturer), but the facts are that EVERYONE does it barring a few small companies who do little to no advertising.

As I said on another thread recently, people need to start thinking out of the box. I mean that respectfully too.

Thinking out of the box tells me that I can now shoot less draw weight with a faster bow and generate as much or better energy for hunting than shooting a higher poundage slower model. Thinking outside the box makes me realize I can shoot heavier arrows at better speeds, for flatter trajectory (but not neccessarily laser-flat) and better energy as well, If I want to keep poundage the same.

I don't care what name is on the limbs. Facts are: times change, and while accuracy will always be king of the hill (regardless of what archery past-time you engage in) facts are also that back in the early to mid 90's has no bearing on what faster models are like today. That's apples and oranges. I shot many of those bows too. I shoot the fast ones of today from various companies..No comparison.

I realize everyone has their opinion, and I hope you know I respect yours, but I do not understand some of the blanket statements, singling out, and vast generalizations you are making here (on the boards in general) lately. Surely after all of your experience in archery you have learned that there are always exceptions to the rule, and nothing is ever absolute?

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