I live and hunt in south east kansas. Lot of public land and alot of farmers I know and they let me hunt. Some big deer there including some booners. I hit one booner in the truck going bow hunting, he was over 180 as a 10 point. A friend has some sheds mounted that are 195 ish with the spread that he has, he was a 10 point to. They are around but you got to work for them.