Good info BT. I have a follow up question for you or anyone. I can see the idea of going a long way to kill and bird and not being successful would be very dissappointing. No doubt if you had to make a couple trips or spend many days the outfitter route could end up actually being cheaper.

The question I have is in regards to the kill itself. If you've killed a few gobblers and want to expand to the slam,there could be the desireto "do-it-yourself" hunts for the accomplishment of killing the birds by your effort. Do you have hunts as a guide where the client is leading the way in setups, calling, decisions etc?

I wonder if there is ranges of involvment depending on the hunters level of experience. As you know the scouting is soooo much of the hunt and I guess I see this as the piece of the puzzle all hunters would need to get from the guide. From there you could have some who are happy to follow along, sit down, an shoot when told but is there others who get right in there and lead the way?

I am guessing this is another reason why so many ask of "unguided" hunts. It might seem like the cost but when you have to find your own lodging, pay for your food, buy your own tags and licences the cost of unguided is rising as you mentioned. I have experienced this year a couple of hunters I know who were extremely excited by thier kills because although it wasn't thier first bird, it was the first bird they killed on thier own.

It seems there is something to be said for that so do outiftters try and work those experiences out with a client?

Oh ya, about the first question. Mr Modesty failed to mention his Grand Slam success For those who don't know the info from BT is based on mutliple Grand Slams and the first Canadian to accomplish the feat.