Is there any sort of warranty on the Winchester? I looked on the Winchester Muzzleloading site and could not find any information. Are the Apex's going so cheaply because they are soon to be discontinued? Anybody know what's the deal with Winchester muzzleloading? Lack of warranty/customer service would be my concern with the Apex. Warranty info is easily found on the CVA site for the Kodiak. You can register the kodiak's warranty online with CVA.