I pretty much agree and adhere to what Rick James said. Function over pattern for me. I deal with a good deal of extremes in weather and temperature. I hunt in 100 degree weather when the season opens and finish around 0 to minus tempsin late Dec. Between that rain, sleet and snow. I really really on my clothing to function properly by keeping me cool, warm, dry,odor minimized,etc. I do like the 3-D leaf coverall Ithrow over the top of most anything Iwearfor breaking up my outline, I rarely get busted and I think that has a lotdo to withgood background cover which I have anample amount of in the conifer forests I hunt inboth on the ground and in my stands. I think if Ibowhuntedin more open deciduous forests, like many HNI members do...( especially once the leaves fall off ) I would be more interested in the camo pattern design.