Just so it's clear where I am on discussions like this...it is none of my business what anybody else uses for anything and I never try to tell someone else they "should do this" or they "should do that", etc...I just post what my personal experience has been and leave it at that.

What I will do however, is introduce somereality and balancewhen I see a post that isslamming a product when I know from long term personal experience the slamming is incorrect...many times "products" are blamed for things that are really end user "process" problems.

So there's no product love / hate in my posts...people can use rabbit feet to clean their bores if they like...I just clarifiedthat the product #13 does not "cause rust"...if it did, surely in 15+ years of continuous useI would have noticed it by now and dropped it like a hot potato.