I'm using 100 gr point but I've tried the 125 gr and it made no diff... and sorry to say, I'vealready moved the rest to the extreme in both directions. As for the rest, it's in the proper posistion at about the last 2 inches of draw. Not trying to shoot done your help mobowhuntr, I do appreciate it. That's odd dynatec(same tear), a stiffer arrow..never tried that...I wonder..lol. By the way I see that your from Nova Scotia...so I'm I (Liverpool), do you go to thenovascotiahunting.com website??