Htoler: He didn't have that w/ him, I was hoping to check it out too. What I'm talking about looked like all the other red dot types, short and fat, but had several choices of reticle, like circle w/ dot. diamond w/ dot, three red bars like mini x hairs ect. I shot a 10 pt w/ the 3 red dots and didn't much care for it, the dang dots were REAL close together. They looked like this, ... , only verticle. I don't think I'ld give up my two V-zones because my two bows shoot about 330 fps and 290 fps, and I can adj V-zone to be right on at the farther ranges. It's all a matter of personal choice just like the bows. Those red dots were slick though, gotta admit that.