Awshucks The scope Randy showed you would be the TenPoint 3X ProView Scope.. if your talking about the one that has the multi line crosshairs and 3x magnafacation and offeres eithe the use of red or green dots or the ability to be used without the dots on and just use the black dots/crosshairs, this would be the scope that everyone is talking about being the best of both worlds.. becaus even if your battery dies in the scope you can still use it and it has the magnafacation for those of us whos eyesight is not what it used to be..