thanks ipc, The last Remington I looked at on a dealer's shelf was a 710. Scared the hell out of me. I also heard a lot of talk bad mouthing Rem. lately. Myself, I've been on a Savage streak. My last 4 rifles have been Savages and every one a shooter. I would get my grandson one if I hadn't come upon this deal ($325 NIB Rem 700 youth .243)