To get my bait started, I hang a sack on a sapling that gets pulled down and the bag attatched. This year I used buttermilk, yogurt, anchovies,fish, bacon,oysters, and 2 bottles of liquid smoke. I let this cook in the sun for about a month. I thought the bucket was gonna explode. This should last for a while and will permeate the hills. I almost lost it when I hung it in the tree. I use a large quatity of pastries at first and set a full barrel next to it. The bears start getting the easy eats and are free to come and go without my interaction. It seems to take 10-12 days to establish a pecking order when it comes to feeding. About that time the barrel is the only thing left and it takes some time to get the food out. The bears begin to come in at different times of the day to check it out and hopefully not run in to the other bears. By using this method, I was having bears come in even at around noon. This year my bait activated in the middle of me putting it out. I have a couple of freinds who want to take bears this year, so I am going to slip in early this year to se if I can shag one out. Thanks for the tips.