I see that there is still some doubt in people's minds. I am a firm believer in the saying, if it ain't broke don't fix it, I was a hard core muzzy guy until a buddy sent me set of these. These made the biggest hole in a deer I'd ever seen, i used mech, and cut on impacts, they don't look like much, but they are deadly accurate and the damage they do, you have to see it to believe it. Can't say enough about these little beauties. Slick tricks will be on my arrow for a long while. Test them yourself, soon the word will spread, HANDS DOWN THESE ARE THE BEST OUT THERE, I know I spent all kinds of money on others.