i don't know dave. all i know is what i said. people are very happy with them. you get a lot of brand loyalty, specially from staff shooters and i onlyhalf listen to what they say for that reason.i haven't shot one. maybe some/most of the folks i talk to are mathews loyalists, but they're very happy with them, and that's what counts. being a bowtech shooter i doubt the bow will feel 'right' to you because it doesn't feel/shoot like a bowtech.does that mean your bow is better - well to you yes, but in the general case no. thing is i don't think there really is a general case.