hmmm...goin out on a limb now....i explain this on my old age...lol...it's fellas like that that makes for the bad 'press' we hunters get from the non-hunting population...tell him to re-read the ethics on the back of his hunter safety card..he needs to get an education on fair chase and hunter ethics...thing is, even if he's allowed to use double aught, loosing those birds should make him reconsider a different load...same here in New York as ranchand...nothing larger than twos or nothing smaller than eights...sorry, but i havent gotrespectfor guys like that...[&:]