Got a guy up here I know that's one of those that watches every hunting show and takes it all as gospel. Still puts his own inexperience with certain issues ahead of the knowledgeable one but that's his problem. Well for whatever reason he bucked his trend and went out on a limb. Last season he "hit" but didn't recover 3 turkeys. Blamed the load not himself, his gun or the pattern the combo produced. Well this year he "hit another turkey andit got away. He was using 00 buckshot with a full choke. Again, balmed everything but himself and his choice. I tried to explain the concept of small ellets and big pelletsand the penetration issues of each especially with the feathers. He just didn't seem to understand or at least not WANT to understand. Some people just don't get it I guess. Of course he's also too cheap to buy the better stuff and take time to pattern.