RH .this guy is a FUFU, common sense would tell you that if you spent 9 days in a Elk unit in colorado 1st seasonand didn't see any ELK(cows or bulls)that quite possibly you need to move somewhere else where they may be or you need to work on your hunting technique. No instead he sold the Vanguard when he got home and bought a Kimber Montana in 300 wsm ..that will help him find the Elk next go around.