What up with that other than I get the feeling you are angry at something? Yes people do make mistakes from time to time, but it few and far between for the average ethical hunter. I agree with davidmil that he is a Idiot. When in the public it would be that much more inportant to make clean ethical kills.Weas hunters be it rifle or archery need torealize that hunters like him give us all a big black eye.Just this pastFebuary I was talking to awell known elk hunter and callerat the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundationelk camp (World Elk Calling Contest). I myself compeat so I was seeing the advice of previous world champs when I am introduced to this guy from Colorado. He is known as one of the best callers and has won worlds 4 timesbut he (as I found out later)is a very sore looser and sportsman and as a result he is no longer allowed to compeat. Right from the start he asked me if I was the typeof man tolay it all on the line and risk everything. I told him I don't follow and didn't get what he was trying to say. He then said well lets say this how far are you willing to take a shot at a elk when bowhunting. I say 40 yards is the max, and he says OK well then what if a trophy bull of a lifetime steps out at 60 or 70 yards your going to tell me you wouldn'ttake the chance and shoot at that animal just to be well known and be famous for killing a record bull? I flat out told him no I wouldn't because that is being risky and I would rather see and hunt that elk again a different day than to take a chance at wounding him. He said your joking right? I let him know that I felt that any hunter that does so is a slob hunter in my book and he should not be allowed to hunt. Well to make a long store short we got into a argument because he felt insulted and yet he admited that he took shots like that all the time and that he wouldn't settle for anything less than 6 point bull and that a successful hunter needs to take risks in order to be successful. He also admited that he hits bulls that he can't find about everyother year or sobut he knew few of them died. Istill get angry when I think about him or our conversation, he honetly didn't care about the well being of the animal he hunted. All he cared about was his manhood so to speak and that he needed to be successful and famousat any risk or cause to others or animals. Anyway my point is I feel that he is not alone in his quest, just watch the hunting channel for example, IMOyou see hunters taking unneeded risks just so they can be successful and have there name on the braging board. Long over are the days where a hunter on TV can just say well dang that old buck, bull or bear just got the best of me and it looks like I will be eating tag soup this year. I admit I get angry all the time when I see hunters taking stupid shots or you can see they haven't practced much but yet they always come up with the "It isn't my fault comment", like Jim Baker did when he blamed it on the animals being tough. I also think that a lot of famous hunters in the spotlight would even go as far a poaching if they thought they could get away with it. One that note Glen Berry (owner of Berry game calls, and another well knownelk caller)did do just that this past year, he hunted and shot a 6x6 bull elk in Idaho with a Montana tag just so he could have another successful hunt on film for his show on the outdoor channel. Thanks heavens he got caught!!!I could goon and on but I'll get off my soap box for now.