cayugad your right you did it, thanks also to Underclocked for the info. I live in Utah and after reading all the posts about the m97s I called the Spotrsmans Warehouse in Provo and all they had was one left in the laminate and I wanted one in synthetic. So on Underclockeds advice I called the Aurora store and they are sending 3 synthetics and two laminates to our store here in Midvale. I was told they should be here by wednesday when I will go and put one on layaway. My question is how good do they shoot the conicals made by hornandy the great plains and the maxi balls? Also where do I get the wads you guys use between the powder and bullet? Oh they told me that the gun does not come with a hard case. I thought I read some place that they did.