Sorry to hear this, Smitty03, I hate hearing of a fellow hunter getting taken. And Burnie, I agree with you, but there are those that would like to hunt far away places and don't have all the gear nor time it takes to do a self hunt, so some times an outfitter ups ones odds in being successful. I hate seeing land being leased at unbelievable rates myself, it will put the poor man out of hunting some day. I think the swap hunts are a good idea, but its hard to trust that you will get an equal hunt compared to what one has to offer, but at least swapping hunts keeps the outfitters and money out of the equation.