Arrowmaster thats what I tried to do this morning but where they leave the roost there isn't any palce to set up. It comes straight up from a wooded bottem and it is wide open. There is afew little dug outs or so that you could sit in but sure I would get busted. Your advice is about the onlything I can try. This area has alot of coyotes and they are more sneaky then the turkey I hunt on the river. Maybe just my thinking on that but sure does seem to me they are harder to get. Last year I was in this same place and had a coyote jump up from below me when I shot it it was 2.5 steps from my butt where I was sitting. It scared the heck out of me was luck I didn't shoot my toes off.