I am not saying you guy's are paocher's my point is I don't tolerate it. You guy's do seem like your getting very defensive. Once again what is the nj. law for that zone. Also to Trock I don't care what you say about how you shot for meat in the freezer it was very poor decision on your part even if you don't like or want my opion. First YES if you could not even determine weather or not it was a buck or doe yes you could have been mistaken for what your target was you even said your self it was getting dark and it was in thick brush then to top it off you willingly take a poor shot which I might add you got dang lucky with the results and thats all it was LUCK. With all the people posting about how they can't find their deer here you could have easily been one of them! So YES what you did by your own words and no assumption on anyone's part WAS UNETHICAL. However congradulations on 2 nice bucks. By the way to whom ever it was that said that maybe the people who were upset about this talk more about hunting than they do shooting deer I am 23 years old with 17 bucks killed in 3 differnt states and I have killed a 9 piont and a doe this year so far. I am in no way bragging but I do pride myself on taking a good clean shot becouse I feel that I owe it to the animal. Part of the reason I get so upset about people paoching and doing unethical things while hunting is becouse one person's actions reflect on every single one of us. I sure as heck don't want some yahoo (not that anyone here is) giving the anti's any fuel to feed their fire.