Yeah! I agree, when I first saw them I thought, you gotta be kidding. I mean they were so small. However they fly so good and they do make a big hole.I shot a big doe last season. She was quartering away.Arrow with a slick trick, entered behind the ribs and came out through her neck, she started bucking and kicking like a broncking bronco. There was blood flying every where,I might of got though her jugular.I saw her die within 40 yrds of where I shot her. Like I said in a previos post, I had probably 4 Muzzys. I just threw em away. Best broadheads I ever seen!