Well, to answer this .....again......it depends on the birds. There is a time and place for both, but personally, I use 2 hens and NO jake. More often than not, in my experience, the jake scares them off. Now, if you manage to bring in the dominant bird.....it works well is SO MUCH FUN! But, for consistency, just use the hens.

My 2 cents. For what it's worth.