ORIGINAL: txhunter58
Scopes are not an option where I hunt (Colorado)
I have gotten groups of 3-4" at 100 yards with PB's and 777 and my open sights, so I will be striving for that. As you said, I have found that the target does make a difference.
At least with black mag3, I tried some 460 grain no excuses and couldn't get better than a 4" group at 25 yards! Don't know what was happening there. May try some other big conicals and see.
Those are great groups at 100 yards.
WOW. 4" at 25 yards?! As odd as all this may sound. I've found precision under100 yards to beadequatewith a wide range of charges using GP and Buffaloconicals in my hawken. I've never used the no-excuses conical and I don't own an Omega, though I do know that SteveBNY harvested a doe with the 460 no excuses at 110 yards this past hunting season.
Happy Hunting, Phil