RE: Black Mag3 vs. APP
Scopes are not an option where I hunt (Colorado)
I have gotten groups of 3-4" at 100 yards with PB's and 777 and my open sights, so I will be striving for that. As you said, I have found that the target does make a difference.
At least with black mag3, I tried some 460 grain no excuses and couldn't get better than a 4" group at 25 yards! Don't know what was happening there. May try some other big conicals and see.