thanx strut and rut...thats a good site maybe ill find it.....hopefully i can carve it down this weekend...hmmm looks like it very well may be butter nut....that is a danged good site with alot of info....its bookmarked! looks like butternut...is light like butternut...and feels soft like butternut....wonder if it could be.....thanx alot....ill be looking for some exotic wood this weekend while im home too....theres gota be something around home or even here at school...