I never really thought about the level much before this thread...but I will when I get home this evening and shoot my bow. I currently have a C-peep on my bow, I went to it after I couldn't keep my fletcher aligned. I bout my Outback before last season and didn't want to buy a new string. I felt I shot better with the fletcher peep than I do with the C-peep but it kept twisitng and I didn't want that to happen with a deer in my sights. I'm planning on ordering a set of cables/string from you Gibblet maybe this friday, and I'm going back to a peep without the tubing, then I'm gonna shoot like crazy untill I can bust nocks at 40 yards Hopefully.I don't feel that I'm a beginner in archery but I am definitely not an expert shooter and am always willing to listen and improve. What was that peep you were talking about the other day in the tech forum Gibblet? What do you thing about the peeps from G5?