This is to Campo and Kill, You got it all wrong. What I was merely saying that the stock recoil pad for the Mossberg 835 is just fine for me, and I do not need a different pad. In my post, I stated that if a different recoil pad is what you want, great, but for me the stock pad is just fine. Obviously you both missed that, and created a arguement for nothing. Next time, read the whole post, and not just take a little out of it and take the subject way out of your personal interpretation. Reread my original post, because I gurantee you in that post, I stated that "it was great you found a better recoil pad, but for me, I did not need anything more than the stock one". And I was stating that for future buyers of the great M. 835, you don't NEED to get one, unless you can't handle the so-called recoil. Have a good day to you both.