RebelHog: Have you been to Excals forum yet? It's www.excaliburcrossbow.com There's 135 pages of current, 51 pages of archives, about 40 threads to a page. They don't just talk about Excals either, all major brands are represented by their owners. It's like an xbow library. You can find all the answers there. BTW, I can't send pm's here. For some reason when I clik on the pm box below the name it doesn't do anything. Any ideas?? Both of the choices you are down to are good ones. If I had it to do all over again, I think I'd go w/ the Exocet. 175# pull, cut in half w/ rope cocker, over 300 fps, and you can uncock it by hand. There is just nothing to go wrong w/ these simple xbows, a fact you'll pick up on if you check their forum out. Regards