if you want some cresting paints vanes will really stick to,you can get them from www.lancasterarchery.com they are lacquer. however, to get them as thin as you want them, you can't use spray paint as a base. you have to use a white lacquer dip. the thinner will pick the spraypaint right off the arrow. if you want to try lacquer i'd advise getting the instructional cd bohning puts out. it gets very specific how long you want your white dip to stream off the arrow before starting to drip. you have a 5 second window that gets a little tricky to attain using thinner. by now you've saved $100 with greg's directions for the spinner, so why not spend some of it.