Mossy Oak and similiar always work fine for me, and I don't sit in "naked" trees so I'm skylighted. If you look at 100 pictures of tropy bucks with the hunter that killed them, I'd bet over 90% have some sort of hardwood camo pattern...not saying ASAT and similiar don't work; they may even be better, but until I've worn out all my "old stuff", I have better uses for my money. If someone wants to donate a set, I'll be glad to field test them in one of the finest whitetail counties in the great state of Ohio all year this year, and will give you all kinds of feedback.