snowman69,
I echo Cayugads thoughts 110%
The T/C Renegadeis my favorite not only because of it's looks but it fits my fat cheeks better. The T/C Hawkens has a raised cheek piece and it's harder for me to sight down.
Actually when shooting theheavy conical loads in my T/C Hawkens it hurts my cheek. It's like getting punched in the side of the face.

The Lymans is the most authentic and they are good shooters too.