I HAVE A BUDDY THAT HUNTS WITH A GUN CLUB AND THEY USE THEM FOR DEER DEER DRIVES HERE IN N.J. THEY WORK GREAT WITH SHOTGUN- BUCKSHOT COMBOS. HE HAS BEEN USING IT BOWHUNTING FOR LAST FEW YEARS AS AN EXTRA TOOL WHEN A PORTABLE STAND JUST WONT WORK. HOPE THIS HELPS A LITTLE!!