I Was reading through this thread and see it took abig turnand now its kind of dead but why would you hunt big bears with a 308 sure it will kill them but youcan killdeer with a 223 but do most no it in my mind its the same as using a 308 on something that weighs 1000+ and will kill you are that many people scared of the recoil of anything larger then a 30-06 If I were going bear hunting and was going to shoot a monster 1100 pound bear at 10 yards I would want the 700 nitro express 14000+ft-lbs 1000 grains of leadwith me just kidding I would leave the 300rum at home buy a 375h&h or a 338 rum