You guys are both right.
HEhehee,I remember about7 years ago when I was a cocky newbie.(You know one of those 6 bird professionals[8D])In my 3rd season I was too gung ho chasing toms on the local WMA.I came up on this old timer who told me I sounded real good,but I need to call less,and not move to the bird.Well,I shrugged him off,and thought what does he know..He's just mad 'cause we're after the same bird.Well,2 more years of bumping more birds than I care to remember,andhonestlythe only birds thatI had luck with....Were 2 year old kamakazi's.I thought about that old timer,and I started calling less(alot less),not moving to the bird,but rather to the side or in front of him if I thought there may be an obstacle between us,forced myself to sit longer,and magically started getting more birds.

My 2nd lesson was if you get into a conversation with a wise bird...He'll just sit there and gobble back,then eventually lose interest in you.You have to work him up,and then shut up on him.A few times of that and he'll get anxious.

Back then,when a bird shut up,that's when I used to move in.I finally learned that when he goes quiet he may very likely be coming in...not leaving.(It's so Silly to me now that I didn't know...It's so basic.)Then I started getting alot more mature birds.I was under the wrong Impression,because most of the birds I took in the beginning were on private land,and were loud mouthed 2 year olds,and gobbled all the way in.That is actually a bad way to get started.I am self taught,and I hope none of you learned this the hard way likeI did.

I have to force myself to be patient too ultimag.I still like to move,but IMHOmy judgement has gotten better.Bob,ultimag,you guys seem like you have been in the game for awhile.I've learned alot since then,but if there's anything ya'll want to teach me,well I'm alot less stubborn now than when I was younger.